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Cherokee_Mountaincat
Oct 9, 2008, 4:08 AM
We have an emergence in the Force, ya'll. A New Troll, but this one is Juast as boring and monotonous as always. The new monocor is OrlandoCocksucker. Like I stated before, this Troll needs to get new material. Look at his posts, Ya'll. Same time as all of the others, each at small intervals, and making the same tire worn out, old, insultive, moronic remarks. Digs and degregation to people who are trying to just get an opinion, and at people of size. You'll also note that he/she/it meantioned people with Bi-Polar syndrome as well.
*Sigh* Some people just have too much time on their hands and not enough imagination in their little brains..
Cat

FalconAngel
Oct 9, 2008, 12:36 PM
If the troll is posting at the same times all the time, then maybe it doesn't have all that much time, which explains the lack of imagination.

But then, being a troll, with so many sites out there to annoy people on must take up a lot of time that could be more productively used, it the troll were someone actually intelligent.

On a related note, has anyone actually noticed that every troll that we have had to deal with here has always used buzzwords and claims of professional standing in the community instead of actually backing up their statements with actual knowledge?

I find that quite amusing, don't you?

TaylorMade
Oct 9, 2008, 12:50 PM
If the troll is posting at the same times all the time, then maybe it doesn't have all that much time, which explains the lack of imagination.

But then, being a troll, with so many sites out there to annoy people on must take up a lot of time that could be more productively used, it the troll were someone actually intelligent.

On a related note, has anyone actually noticed that every troll that we have had to deal with here has always used buzzwords and claims of professional standing in the community instead of actually backing up their statements with actual knowledge?

I find that quite amusing, don't you?

I think it's Michael Bailey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Michael_Bailey). :p

*Taylor*

pottzie
Oct 9, 2008, 5:02 PM
What the troll lacks in courage, he makes up for with a thorough lack of imagination.

csrakate
Oct 9, 2008, 6:42 PM
I give constructive criticism and I flame the idea not the person.

You can change the name, you can change the persona and the profile...but you're just not intelligent enough to keep from slipping up and revealing yourself through your constant references and insults to people of size (women in particular), the mentally ill, the so called "closet cases", not to mention putting others down who do not meet your standards of "hotness". I quote you from the "advice for a newbie thread":

Last keep in mind that most people and couples want HOT people, which you're not.

I don't believe this statement falls under the category as "constructive criticism" and it is most definitely a blatant flaming of a person!

Give us all a break...you're not fooling anyone....but I give you high marks for your tenacity even if it's mired in self delusion.

csrakate
Oct 9, 2008, 7:00 PM
If you ever bothered to develop relationships among the membership of this site instead of spending your free time trolling and posting your vitriolic "advice", you might discover that many of us are compassionate people who simply cannot tolerate it when someone can be so very hurtful or "blunt",as you prefer to call it. to someone who is merely seeking advice or support.

I don't know...maybe you truly believe you just joined this site. In that case, I implore you to seek help immediately. You may very well be among the mentally ill population you so often degrade!

csrakate
Oct 9, 2008, 7:26 PM
Well...since you asked...I treat people with dignity and respect and I expect the same in return. If I don't receive it for some reason, I weigh the importance of that person in my life and try my best not to obsess over it. But I am also a fierce and loyal friend who will not sit idly by when I see someone I care about get demeaned or degraded.

You may think that you're being attacked on this thread, but you have crossed the line in several of your posts and you've made comments that were simply uncalled for. I usually just sit back quietly, reporting your many posts to Drew and let him take care of you, but you went too far this time when you insulted Cherokee Mountaincat, someone who is loved on this site, who contributes positively in all aspects of it and who is someone that I consider a friend.

Dignity and respect....very simple! It's amazing how well that works and how few issues I've had with people in the "real world"! You might want to try it.

Cherokee_Mountaincat
Oct 9, 2008, 7:45 PM
Gives Kate a standing ovation.

:wiggle2::bowdown::paw::rainbow::rainbow:

FalconAngel
Oct 9, 2008, 8:42 PM
What are you talking about? I just joined this site the other day.

I don't think I'm wrong in saying that people don't want sex or deep intimate relationships with fat and ugly people, or the mentally ill.

What's wrong with having standards, following them, and not being desperate?

I shoot from the hip, I can be blunt, and I don't sugar coat everything with bullshit like most people (including yourself) do.

Yes I do give constructive criticism and it's up to the other person to follow it.

They're asking for advice and if they don't like what other people give them for advice and decide not to follow excellent advice that people give them that is their problem.

This doesn't even concern you so why are you adding in your opinion that doesn't matter?

If you don't like my posts don't read them.

Let's give you the benefit of the doubt and agree that, as you claim, you just joined the other day.
In that case, don't you think that it would be more productive to remain silent until you know more about the people that you have been bashing and the site that you are on?

And it is possible to be blunt without being insulting. Many of the people on this site do it all the time.

However, since trolls are unacceptable on this site, and we have been dealing with plenty of them, the past few months, if you are telling the truth and are not a troll, then diplomacy is more important than being insultingly "blunt" to people that you really know nothing about.

If you don't like the way that people respond to your "bluntness", then don't post.

However, if you insist on posting in a manner that is offensive to people that you don't even know and who have been here far longer than you, then everyone will consider you a troll and place you on the ignore list, like we have done with all the other trolls, and no one will read your posts.

That, of course, brings the deep philosophical question of;
"if a troll posts on a website and everyone has said troll on their ignore list, does it really post?"

Think carefully about that.
If you are being honest with us, then you may just want to swallow your ego and pride so that you can just be accepted here, but be forewarned;
we have dealt with trolls in the past and if you continue to offend people on this site without any regard for those people, you will end up being reported by everyone that you offend, which will get you banned from the site. It has been done plenty of times in the past few months.

We all have to deal with the consequences of our actions. No one is exempt from that universal truth.

Do you really want all the attention that being a putz and/or troll brings?
Or would you rather feel welcomed into a community that accepts those who can give respect?

That choice is yours and yours alone. Choose wisely.

vitt&cho
Oct 9, 2008, 10:28 PM
Hugs FalconAngel (ty, tyvm a la Elvis)!!!!



Let's give you the benefit of the doubt and agree that, as you claim, you just joined the other day.
In that case, don't you think that it would be more productive to remain silent until you know more about the people that you have been bashing and the site that you are on?

And it is possible to be blunt without being insulting. Many of the people on this site do it all the time.

However, since trolls are unacceptable on this site, and we have been dealing with plenty of them, the past few months, if you are telling the truth and are not a troll, then diplomacy is more important than being insultingly "blunt" to people that you really know nothing about.

If you don't like the way that people respond to your "bluntness", then don't post.

However, if you insist on posting in a manner that is offensive to people that you don't even know and who have been here far longer than you, then everyone will consider you a troll and place you on the ignore list, like we have done with all the other trolls, and no one will read your posts.

That, of course, brings the deep philosophical question of;
"if a troll posts on a website and everyone has said troll on their ignore list, does it really post?"

Think carefully about that.
If you are being honest with us, then you may just want to swallow your ego and pride so that you can just be accepted here, but be forewarned;
we have dealt with trolls in the past and if you continue to offend people on this site without any regard for those people, you will end up being reported by everyone that you offend, which will get you banned from the site. It has been done plenty of times in the past few months.

We all have to deal with the consequences of our actions. No one is exempt from that universal truth.

Do you really want all the attention that being a putz and/or troll brings?
Or would you rather feel welcomed into a community that accepts those who can give respect?

That choice is yours and yours alone. Choose wisely.

12voltman59
Oct 10, 2008, 6:31 AM
I am glad you have the guy pegged---doesn't he get it that by now--we can tell in about ten seconds "IT'S HIM AGAIN!!"????

He chooses these names that are so much in the same vein--"OrlandoCocksuker" "Cuntlapper" and the like--and that he posts in the same way----

He joins up --and in short order---is posting a large number of posts that go to the same sorts of topics, expressed in the same way--very often----using the very same words and such as in past posts under the ever growing panoply of names he has used---also his time of posting is often the same----

For someone who is "new"-he goes and attacks the same people as a rule --and then it seems of late--adds one more person to his (s)hit list---

So doood----your patterns are predictable now---we don't need Gil Grissom and the CSI team to uncover you--we know who you are--at least your internet face---and it ain't pretty.

You have to be someone who is "off" in some way----at the very least you have very bad social skills----I guess you never heard the term "you can get more with honey than with vinegar!"

The thing is dddooooddd---no matter all the shit you have pulled in the past--if you would just chill out---play nice with the rest of the kids in the sandbox---all of your past sins would be forgiven here and you might find that the people on here would actually embrace you and accept you--try to help you in any way we can--I know I sure as hell would--but no--you have to keep on doing your stupid shit---which is really a very sad thing--not for us-but for you!!!

I don't know what you get out of doing what you do here--but it is not the sign of someone is a happy peson---you seem to be a very toirmented and conflicted one---I guess that you go by the adage of "Misery Loves Company" since you only share negative things here---nothing at all positive---

Too bad for you--it's your loss---not ours!!

I know that Drew already deleted "Orlando" but I am sure our troll is lurking in the shadows and of course-will soon BBBEEE BBBBACCCKKK!! --he always does----so I am sure he will read this at some point---

**Peg**
Oct 10, 2008, 10:51 AM
... I am sure our troll is lurking in the shadows and of course-will soon BBBEEE BBBBACCCKKK!! --he always does----so I am sure he will read this at some point---

yup ... I caught him reading his own post yesterday morning just to see how many people responded... I must say he's REALLY good at baiting people... seems to work every time.

Lienda
Oct 10, 2008, 11:18 AM
If that's what they said, then obviously they are one of those ignorant people who think that every other human on the planet egsists as if they were dolls off an assembly line. Hence, "Nobody wants" this, or "Everyone is like" that. Gee, I guess I like thin people. :rolleyes:

Cherokee_Mountaincat
Oct 10, 2008, 2:30 PM
Yes but not all of us are thin, Darlin. Naw, this troll doesnt like himself, let alone anyone else. He has to lash out at everyone no matter what size they are, what educational back ground or age and status. He is just a person, and I say this loosely, that is so unhappy with himself and his own life that he cant find any joy nor happiness in AnyThing.
Sad....
Cat

csrakate
Oct 10, 2008, 3:16 PM
I think our troll is slowly beginning to realize that some of us know who he is and it's just a matter of time before he trips himself up enough to make that apparent. He's getting sloppy, not covering his tracks, and while he's tenacious enough to keep trying, he will soon realize he's not fooling everybody. Oh...and for the record...I do believe he has recently signed on with a new name...so it's just a matter of time before we hear from him again.

Oh...and Troll..before you start back saying that it's only because I don't have a life that I've noticed these things....you're wrong! It's just because you are making it soooooo damn easy to notice!! Even the most precious stones crack under enough pressure...if you catch my drift and I think you do!!!!!!

texasman6172003
Oct 11, 2008, 1:27 PM
Well i don't know if y'all remember what this guy said about Belle and her husband in another thread. Well if you dont,Now THAT WAS NOT CONSTRUCTIVE ADVICE!!!! Like Kate said this person will soon reveal himself...

Cherokee_Mountaincat
Oct 11, 2008, 2:38 PM
*Evil Cat chuckle* Thats ok Tex-honey. I'm going to give Drew the name of a young man here at the University of Washington who is an Ace at ISP tracking and computer manipulations. He's a Computer Guru, and is Very good in his field.. This boy is so good that he just got a full scholarship to Cambridge University, where my daughter goes.
Should get interesting here Real quick. *Wink*
Devious Cat:cool:

frikidiki
Oct 11, 2008, 3:16 PM
There could be a way to permanently shut the troll down. I'm going to speak from my limited networking knowledge here and now--anyone who has the real knowledge can feel free to build on or correct what I say here--especially Drew, since this is his site.

Consider that he keeps getting on the site. That fact tells me that, unless this site isn't set up to check for e-mail addresses that have been associated with profiles deleted by Drew, he's probably using a different e-mail address every time; and that also suggests he's either got access to a server of his own, or is somehow abusing the privileges at Yahoo or whatever company has the e-mail server he's using. In the latter case, that company ought to get a notice about what's happening here. If it's his own server, perhaps it could get blocked.

On a lighter note, I think the troll is sadomasochistic. He pours out this abuse, gets dumped on by everyone here, ends up getting his posts and possibly his profile deleted, then comes back to repeat it all again. No offense to people who dig this kind of thing, but I just don't understand the appeal. What kind of a pervert does this sort of thing? It's only a matter of time before these perverted sadomasochistic trolls will unite to form a lobby in Congresses and Parliaments across the planet. They could take over! :eek: We must stop them here, before it's too late!

Cdasue
Oct 11, 2008, 5:27 PM
I think there would have to be something in place that would register his IP address. That would be the only way to stop him. Drew would have to implement that and that might cost some money.

And darnit I missed all the fun. What with all the talk of the the Great Depression #2 just around the corner I was too busy exchanging my paper money into gold and silver...you know...just in case...:bigrin:

12voltman59
Oct 12, 2008, 1:57 AM
As far as the email addresses he uses when he signs on under his various guises--when he has sent me his "nasty grams"--I have responded by sending messages back to the addresses he uses --but they are not valid because I get messages bounced back to me saying they are undeliverable because the address cannot be found--I don't know if he uses them or not to get his "memberships"--I thought with most sites you had to have a valid email account as a bare minimum in order to get a membership----